Comments on: Poverty equals terror? Not necessarily. http://nigerianstalk.org/2009/12/27/poverty-equals-terror-not-necessarily/ Are we listening? Wed, 16 May 2012 03:30:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Are we Exporting Terorists/ Extremists? « Red Earth http://nigerianstalk.org/2009/12/27/poverty-equals-terror-not-necessarily/comment-page-1/#comment-1034 Are we Exporting Terorists/ Extremists? « Red Earth Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:58:39 +0000 http://nigerianstalk.org/?p=507#comment-1034 [...] poverty and misunderstanding. The policy and political implications are clear. In fact, Nneoma’s write-up on the importance of education of boys, which presented the World Bank findingsthat countries with [...] [...] poverty and misunderstanding. The policy and political implications are clear. In fact, Nneoma’s write-up on the importance of education of boys, which presented the World Bank findingsthat countries with [...]

]]> By: Are We Exporting Terrorists/Religious Extremists? – NigeriansTalk http://nigerianstalk.org/2009/12/27/poverty-equals-terror-not-necessarily/comment-page-1/#comment-1016 Are We Exporting Terrorists/Religious Extremists? – NigeriansTalk Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:22:30 +0000 http://nigerianstalk.org/?p=507#comment-1016 [...] poverty and misunderstanding. The policy and political implications are clear. In fact, Nneoma’s write-up on the importance of education of boys, which presented the World Bank findings that countries with [...] [...] poverty and misunderstanding. The policy and political implications are clear. In fact, Nneoma’s write-up on the importance of education of boys, which presented the World Bank findings that countries with [...]

]]> By: LoloBloggs http://nigerianstalk.org/2009/12/27/poverty-equals-terror-not-necessarily/comment-page-1/#comment-594 LoloBloggs Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:57:22 +0000 http://nigerianstalk.org/?p=507#comment-594 I've only just taken the time to read this post. Very well written, most measured response I've read. I haven't personally had much to say about this guy except that he does not represent me and I am Nigerian. He isn't giving me a bad name, because I am responsible for my own name. If we are to succeed in making positive strides as a nation and tell the world successfully that we will not be pigeon holed or held back, then we need to also drop the minority mentality. Every serial killer or wall street fraudster did not cause Americans to fall into uproar about their bad name, one man's crime is one man's crime. We are as prone to militancy and perceived terrorism as any nation in the world at the moment, that's a fact of our modern times so we don't need to claim it as a Nigerian problem. As for the way other nations see Nigeria, well small mindedness will always have an excuse, Umar is to yesterday, what District 9 was the day before yesterday....lets see what today and tomorrow bring. I’ve only just taken the time to read this post. Very well written, most measured response I’ve read.

I haven’t personally had much to say about this guy except that he does not represent me and I am Nigerian. He isn’t giving me a bad name, because I am responsible for my own name.

If we are to succeed in making positive strides as a nation and tell the world successfully that we will not be pigeon holed or held back, then we need to also drop the minority mentality. Every serial killer or wall street fraudster did not cause Americans to fall into uproar about their bad name, one man’s crime is one man’s crime.

We are as prone to militancy and perceived terrorism as any nation in the world at the moment, that’s a fact of our modern times so we don’t need to claim it as a Nigerian problem.

As for the way other nations see Nigeria, well small mindedness will always have an excuse, Umar is to yesterday, what District 9 was the day before yesterday….lets see what today and tomorrow bring.

]]> By: LoloBloggs http://nigerianstalk.org/2009/12/27/poverty-equals-terror-not-necessarily/comment-page-1/#comment-1912 LoloBloggs Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:57:00 +0000 http://nigerianstalk.org/?p=507#comment-1912 I've only just taken the time to read this post. Very well written, most measured response I've read. I haven't personally had much to say about this guy except that he does not represent me and I am Nigerian. He isn't giving me a bad name, because I am responsible for my own name. If we are to succeed in making positive strides as a nation and tell the world successfully that we will not be pigeon holed or held back, then we need to also drop the minority mentality. Every serial killer or wall street fraudster did not cause Americans to fall into uproar about their bad name, one man's crime is one man's crime. We are as prone to militancy and perceived terrorism as any nation in the world at the moment, that's a fact of our modern times so we don't need to claim it as a Nigerian problem. As for the way other nations see Nigeria, well small mindedness will always have an excuse, Umar is to yesterday, what District 9 was the day before yesterday....lets see what today and tomorrow bring. I’ve only just taken the time to read this post. Very well written, most measured response I’ve read.

I haven’t personally had much to say about this guy except that he does not represent me and I am Nigerian. He isn’t giving me a bad name, because I am responsible for my own name.

If we are to succeed in making positive strides as a nation and tell the world successfully that we will not be pigeon holed or held back, then we need to also drop the minority mentality. Every serial killer or wall street fraudster did not cause Americans to fall into uproar about their bad name, one man’s crime is one man’s crime.

We are as prone to militancy and perceived terrorism as any nation in the world at the moment, that’s a fact of our modern times so we don’t need to claim it as a Nigerian problem.

As for the way other nations see Nigeria, well small mindedness will always have an excuse, Umar is to yesterday, what District 9 was the day before yesterday….lets see what today and tomorrow bring.

]]> By: solomonsydelle http://nigerianstalk.org/2009/12/27/poverty-equals-terror-not-necessarily/comment-page-1/#comment-570 solomonsydelle Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:40:17 +0000 http://nigerianstalk.org/?p=507#comment-570 I keep hearing people say this is a one-off situation, but it won't remain that way for long. MEND, militancy, kidnappers, Boko Haram, vigilantes in the West, the signs are clear and Nigerians cannot afford to continue ignoring them. The fact that this boy was rich was nothing more than a travel reality - a poor Nigerian Muslim/northern male would be incapable of receiving travel documents. Chinua Achebe's 'Things Fall Apart' keeps coming to mind. Specifically the theme song for the television program - <i>"Things fall apart/ And the center cannot hold..."</i> I have always been haunted by that theme song's warning. I only wish many more of us had heeded its message, our nation might not be in the decayed state it is in now. @Nneoma: wonderful post. I applaud you for being able to write this so quickly after the incident. It took my 24 hours to get over my frustration to even begin to think critically about the matters involved. I keep hearing people say this is a one-off situation, but it won’t remain that way for long. MEND, militancy, kidnappers, Boko Haram, vigilantes in the West, the signs are clear and Nigerians cannot afford to continue ignoring them. The fact that this boy was rich was nothing more than a travel reality – a poor Nigerian Muslim/northern male would be incapable of receiving travel documents. Chinua Achebe’s ‘Things Fall Apart’ keeps coming to mind. Specifically the theme song for the television program – “Things fall apart/ And the center cannot hold…” I have always been haunted by that theme song’s warning. I only wish many more of us had heeded its message, our nation might not be in the decayed state it is in now.

@Nneoma: wonderful post. I applaud you for being able to write this so quickly after the incident. It took my 24 hours to get over my frustration to even begin to think critically about the matters involved.

]]> By: solomonsydelle http://nigerianstalk.org/2009/12/27/poverty-equals-terror-not-necessarily/comment-page-1/#comment-1911 solomonsydelle Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:40:00 +0000 http://nigerianstalk.org/?p=507#comment-1911 I keep hearing people say this is a one-off situation, but it won't remain that way for long. MEND, militancy, kidnappers, Boko Haram, vigilantes in the West, the signs are clear and Nigerians cannot afford to continue ignoring them. The fact that this boy was rich was nothing more than a travel reality - a poor Nigerian Muslim/northern male would be incapable of receiving travel documents. Chinua Achebe's 'Things Fall Apart' keeps coming to mind. Specifically the theme song for the television program - <i>"Things fall apart/ And the center cannot hold..."</i> I have always been haunted by that theme song's warning. I only wish many more of us had heeded its message, our nation might not be in the decayed state it is in now. @Nneoma: wonderful post. I applaud you for being able to write this so quickly after the incident. It took my 24 hours to get over my frustration to even begin to think critically about the matters involved. I keep hearing people say this is a one-off situation, but it won’t remain that way for long. MEND, militancy, kidnappers, Boko Haram, vigilantes in the West, the signs are clear and Nigerians cannot afford to continue ignoring them. The fact that this boy was rich was nothing more than a travel reality – a poor Nigerian Muslim/northern male would be incapable of receiving travel documents. Chinua Achebe’s ‘Things Fall Apart’ keeps coming to mind. Specifically the theme song for the television program – “Things fall apart/ And the center cannot hold…” I have always been haunted by that theme song’s warning. I only wish many more of us had heeded its message, our nation might not be in the decayed state it is in now.

@Nneoma: wonderful post. I applaud you for being able to write this so quickly after the incident. It took my 24 hours to get over my frustration to even begin to think critically about the matters involved.

]]> By: KG http://nigerianstalk.org/2009/12/27/poverty-equals-terror-not-necessarily/comment-page-1/#comment-564 KG Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:06:26 +0000 http://nigerianstalk.org/?p=507#comment-564 <i>I forgot to add that these educated and wealthy 'agents' at a fundamental level just have issues with the Western way of living (i.e. education & culture) and that seems to form the core of their 'battle'. It's unfortunate that religion is also used to justify the acts but that ideology is clearly at the root of their mentality. It just seems like they're fighting for a new world order (but seeking to do it by bombing everything to submission). Sorry if this is getting all political sciene and IR-like sha.<i> I forgot to add that these educated and wealthy ‘agents’ at a fundamental level just have issues with the Western way of living (i.e. education & culture) and that seems to form the core of their ‘battle’. It’s unfortunate that religion is also used to justify the acts but that ideology is clearly at the root of their mentality. It just seems like they’re fighting for a new world order (but seeking to do it by bombing everything to submission). Sorry if this is getting all political sciene and IR-like sha.

]]> By: KG http://nigerianstalk.org/2009/12/27/poverty-equals-terror-not-necessarily/comment-page-1/#comment-1910 KG Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:06:00 +0000 http://nigerianstalk.org/?p=507#comment-1910 <i>I forgot to add that these educated and wealthy 'agents' at a fundamental level just have issues with the Western way of living (i.e. education & culture) and that seems to form the core of their 'battle'. It's unfortunate that religion is also used to justify the acts but that ideology is clearly at the root of their mentality. It just seems like they're fighting for a new world order (but seeking to do it by bombing everything to submission). Sorry if this is getting all political sciene and IR-like sha.<i> I forgot to add that these educated and wealthy ‘agents’ at a fundamental level just have issues with the Western way of living (i.e. education & culture) and that seems to form the core of their ‘battle’. It’s unfortunate that religion is also used to justify the acts but that ideology is clearly at the root of their mentality. It just seems like they’re fighting for a new world order (but seeking to do it by bombing everything to submission). Sorry if this is getting all political sciene and IR-like sha.

]]> By: KG http://nigerianstalk.org/2009/12/27/poverty-equals-terror-not-necessarily/comment-page-1/#comment-563 KG Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:42:32 +0000 http://nigerianstalk.org/?p=507#comment-563 <i>The link between political instability within the country of origin of the terrorist and proclivity towards international acts terror may be a stronger one<i> I agree with this point you made above because the 'profile' for lack of a better word just defies belief. Most Nigerian 23 year-olds are trying to feed their families or trying to graduate from college where we all know the educational system is broken. As for the rich ones among them, parties and hanging out are what occupy their time both in Nigeria and abroad. Who has the mentality to do this? It's just such a shame cos the way the press has been screaming Nigeria every second the past few days, visa and traveling issues for Nigerians (and Africans by extension) have just worsened to the point of no return. On a lighter note, I guess ignoramus Americans will now be forced to separate Nigeria the country from Africa the continent...lol. The link between political instability within the country of origin of the terrorist and proclivity towards international acts terror may be a stronger one
I agree with this point you made above because the ‘profile’ for lack of a better word just defies belief. Most Nigerian 23 year-olds are trying to feed their families or trying to graduate from college where we all know the educational system is broken. As for the rich ones among them, parties and hanging out are what occupy their time both in Nigeria and abroad. Who has the mentality to do this?
It’s just such a shame cos the way the press has been screaming Nigeria every second the past few days, visa and traveling issues for Nigerians (and Africans by extension) have just worsened to the point of no return.
On a lighter note, I guess ignoramus Americans will now be forced to separate Nigeria the country from Africa the continent…lol.

]]> By: KG http://nigerianstalk.org/2009/12/27/poverty-equals-terror-not-necessarily/comment-page-1/#comment-1909 KG Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:42:00 +0000 http://nigerianstalk.org/?p=507#comment-1909 <i>The link between political instability within the country of origin of the terrorist and proclivity towards international acts terror may be a stronger one<i> I agree with this point you made above because the 'profile' for lack of a better word just defies belief. Most Nigerian 23 year-olds are trying to feed their families or trying to graduate from college where we all know the educational system is broken. As for the rich ones among them, parties and hanging out are what occupy their time both in Nigeria and abroad. Who has the mentality to do this? It's just such a shame cos the way the press has been screaming Nigeria every second the past few days, visa and traveling issues for Nigerians (and Africans by extension) have just worsened to the point of no return. On a lighter note, I guess ignoramus Americans will now be forced to separate Nigeria the country from Africa the continent...lol. The link between political instability within the country of origin of the terrorist and proclivity towards international acts terror may be a stronger one
I agree with this point you made above because the ‘profile’ for lack of a better word just defies belief. Most Nigerian 23 year-olds are trying to feed their families or trying to graduate from college where we all know the educational system is broken. As for the rich ones among them, parties and hanging out are what occupy their time both in Nigeria and abroad. Who has the mentality to do this?
It’s just such a shame cos the way the press has been screaming Nigeria every second the past few days, visa and traveling issues for Nigerians (and Africans by extension) have just worsened to the point of no return.
On a lighter note, I guess ignoramus Americans will now be forced to separate Nigeria the country from Africa the continent…lol.

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